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« on: June 26, 2006, 03:57:01 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2006, 06:50:15 PM »


Continuing to think, outloud:

I never could understand how I could "reconcile" my existential positon with:
"Unless you eat My body and drink My blood, you shall not have life in you"


The next logical question is, :ho w much and how often?"

I mean, gee whiz, it wears off??? Is that why we are supposed to partake regularly, even weekly?
Seems kinda funny that the body and blood of the eternal God only lasts a few hours or days.

Or am I just a troublemaker tonight?

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2006, 09:05:54 PM »

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I mean, gee whiz, it wears off??? Is that why we are supposed to partake regularly, even weekly?
Seems kinda funny that the body and blood of the eternal God only lasts a few hours or days.
I think at least part of the answer to that might be that conversion is an "every day" process. Each day we must move on those good intentions and overcome our failures. Each day we must again break ourselves for the world. Each day we must remind our terribly short memories of where we're going and why.

Ritual is archetypal and integral to our psyches I think. Just as we have our daily routines and rituals that get us through the secular world, we have our spiritual rituals to keep us focused on the "greater things". Thus we say our prayers, and sing our hymns, and ring our bells, and break our bread, answering the invitation to the table for the Sunday family dinner to tell our stories and be together.

Just as we need to periodically hear the words of affirmation from our friends, bosses, or spouses, we need to hear those words of affirmation that we are beloved children of God and to feel the intimacy that the Eucharist is to provide--"com-union" with God! I don't think many of our minds can really get a good grip on that concept and hold on to the belief for great periods of time. Our ability to be convinced that it was just a mirage is too great, so we need those constant reminders.

There's probably a lot more to it than that, but at least I think that may be a starting point.

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 12:58:36 AM »

"Communion "increases" "grace" "in the life of the soul."  I can hear those ol' abacuses totalling up a storm, and smoking! what with
all those "spiritual" "calculations." 
Why don't they just cut to the chase, and come out with a tout sheet - entitled: "Spiritual Calculus, For the Long-Term Investor." OMG.


Father Guido Sarducci came up with a system once. Only problem was that you could end up 35 cents short. (Oh, me bad!)

Remember that one?

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 01:25:00 AM »

Did you ever read "St. Figita and Other Parodies" ?  Roll Eyes  oooooooo  that is a naughty !  Grin
A phrase that lingers in memory is,  "hitting" sin "with the pom-pom guns of sanctifying grace."  Lips Sealed

No I didn't -- will have to see if i can find it.

Father GUido Sarducci's home page is http://www.fathersarducci.com/index.html

Page 2 has some routine summaries -- not the whole routine but enough that you will get my reference.

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 07:51:19 AM »


Father Guido Sarducci came up with a system once. Only problem was that you could end up 35 cents short. (Oh, me bad!)

Remember that one?

JKS

I never watched SNL much, but did catch Fr. Sarducci a couple times.

35 cents short......
I better get to work.....I've got a lot of catching up to do I'm afraid!

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 08:23:32 AM »

35 cents short......
I better get to work.....I've got a lot of catching up to do I'm afraid!


That much? Better make an eye doctor appointment.

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 08:48:17 AM »


That much? Better make an eye doctor appointment.

JKS

I guess I spent too long as a teenager.  Embarrassed Probably explains the trifocals.   Cheesy

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 09:49:50 AM »


From St. Figeta:

Prayer Against Enemies

(Attributed to St. Dragomira):         

O Fidgeta, who dost cause the unrighteous to scratch where it does not itch, grant that the hateful N. may be afflicted with tickles, the stitch, the cramp, underarm rash, prickly foot, and all manner of unexplained twinges.

Dragomira!!!   


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[gotta go up to the attic and try to find this lucious volume fro a re-read.]  Roll Eyes




Did a little searching but couldn't even find any excerpts. Sad 

What you posted shows it to be warped and somewhat mean-spirited, which means I'm going to have to track it down now! Wink

Not a saint yet,
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 11:26:24 AM »


"Pretty soon, they'll be comin' round - with a pad of paper and a pen - asking:  "Whole wheat or rye?"

Make mine oat bran with a glass of spatlese.

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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2006, 04:18:57 PM »

OK, OK...I give up.  Roll Eyes  What, pree-cisely is "spatlese."  [sounds like a variety of hops]  Huh


It's a variety of riesling.

I like rieslings but there are two subvarieties I like evn more -- auslese and spatlese.

Spat is German for late and lese is from the verb lesen meaing to lay. It has something to do with being put to age either late in the season or longer than average -- not sure which.

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2006, 04:22:00 PM »

And, if He reads the post on Guido Sarducci....  

I feel he would enjoy it. AFter all, the being who created camels, platypi, ostriches and puffer fish had to have some devious kind of a sense of humor.

I like Sarducci take on colleges. He decided to offer a college where you get your degree in two weeks (or something like that). This is based on the fact that studies show the average student forgets something like 80 to 90% of what they learn by the time they graduate. He thinks this is a waste of time. If you don't waste it learning the stuff you gonna forget, you save a lot of time and can get through what's left in two weeks.

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2006, 04:30:40 PM »


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Spat is German for late and lese is from the verb lesen meaing to lay. It has something to do with being put to age either late in the season or longer than average -- not sure which
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Ah, "Spater!"  Grin    Natürlich!  Yetz, Ich verstehe Sie.
 


Seien Sie vorsichtig!  [aka "Spater!"]  Roll Eyes


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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2006, 05:02:36 PM »

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Probably explains the trifocals.   

Honestly.  [stern look]
reen

Ok, ok, gotta ask. (here goes the thread <hee hee>...
Viagra and the ilk....
whose most dangerous and apparently most common side effect is loss of vision.....

Now that is funny !! SOMEbody up there has a beautiful sense of humor.

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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2006, 05:14:32 PM »


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Probably explains the trifocals.  



Honestly.  [stern look]


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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2006, 05:20:24 PM »

Ok, and on the viagra note I have to tell my joke. Stop me if you've already heard it....oh, you can't--haha you!

A middle aged guy goes to see his grandfather in the nursing home. He asks the grandfather how he likes it there and the grandfather tells him it's great, and in the recounting of why he likes it, at the end he tells his grandson that every night at bed time they give him hot chocolate and viagra.The grandson thinks he has heard wrong and asks the grandfather to repeat what he said, which the grandfather confirms.

On his way out he stops at the nurse's station and asks why they would be giving his 93 year old grandfather viagra with his hot chocolate. The nurse responds that "we give all our older gentlemen that. The hot chocolate helps to put them to sleep and the viagra keeps them from rolling out of their beds during the night."

Preparing for another stern look,
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2006, 05:45:08 PM »

What gets me is, the "warning" about "going to the emergency room" if the "effect" "lasts
longer than 4 hours" !!!!! 

I didn't want to bring up (no pun intended) this aspect but....there is something WRONG with that ?!?!?!?


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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2006, 06:04:55 PM »

Ahem....<putting on my moderator hat>....I notice that there is some hijacking going on in this thread, although I can't really tell from the title (Thinking out loud) if there was actually an intended subject or if this was to be a thread of random ruminations.

Be that as it may, the hijacking shall cease and desist immediately! <doing best to restrain the giggling here>

You may now carry on with......well......whatever........ Roll Eyes

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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2006, 06:23:36 PM »

I'm not really at all sure, except in a few cases where there is mutual interest within a marriage, that viagra is a good thing. I'm figuring that an awful lot of women are sighing with relief, figuring that "that part" of the marriage is finally done with, when along comes viagra and hubby develops an ear to ear grin while wifey is running for the hills in terror.

With that reaction, I figure hubby is then figuring he has the "right" to go water someone else's garden and that between the two results marriages that should have been the golden years of companionship are being torn asunder left and right.

Maybe I'm wrong, and I sure hope so, but there are times when I think God's carefully laid out plans are better left untampered with.

Maybe too cynical,
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2006, 06:58:44 PM »


With that reaction, I figure hubby is then figuring he has the "right" to go water someone else's garden and that between the two results marriages that should have been the golden years of companionship are being torn asunder left and right.

Personally I think wifey isbeing a little selfish in the above situation.

I used to carry around a letter I clipped from a Dear Abby  coliumn. It concerned a 70+ year old woman who had married an 80+ year old man so they could emjoy themselves and each other and do so with the blessing of the Church. However, she got more than she bargained for and the Doctor would put her in the hospital a couple times each year because even agreed that 4 to 6 times a day was excesssive.


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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2006, 07:17:30 PM »


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Personally I think wifey isbeing a little selfish in the above situation.


You bet your sweet life she is.  Couples pledge themselves to one another, and
"not feeling like it" - constantly - is, to me, an ultimate act of selfishness and
becomes a source of temptation for the other spouse, all kidding aside.

As a matter of fact, in Judaism, this very point is of critical import.  And this is
where I find a distinct difference, between Christianity and Judaism.

We've got Paul saying: "Better marry than burn."  Now there's a cheery thought. Undecided
There seems to me to be a total "anti-body" aspect to Christianity.
In Judaism, the conjugal realationship is seen for the beauty and divine design inherent in it.

I'm perfectly serious, here.


reen


I don't disagree with either of you here. I'm just going by things I've heard from women who don't seem to share the same view as you guys do. While I've certainly not done any extensive surveys, and it's not our normal topic for dinner conversation, over the years I think I've heard far more women who look forward to the days when that's all over than I do the other way.

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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2006, 07:48:39 PM »


Simon and Garfunkel are now singing:

And the people bowed and prayed
to the neon god they made.


Lots of "neon gods" about, I think.  Undecided  Which is one of the reasons I'm so glad Words Free exists.

Nite, everybody. Smiley


reen



I love Simon and Garfunkel. I think I have almost all of their stuff, on vinyl of course in the scratched up originals.

Hello darkness my old friend, I've come to talk with you again. Can't think how many times I went there.

Goodnight Reen.

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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2006, 02:25:54 AM »


This guy made a list up [which I have edited] of things that drive him nuts.



-People who point at their wrist while asking for the time... I know where my watch is pal, where the hell is yours?

 
[my favorite  Roll Eyes]:
 -When people say "it's always the last place you look". Of course it is!

  Why the hell would you keep looking after you've found it? Do people do this? Who and where are they?   Shocked


 - When people say while watching a film "did you see that?"  No, I missed it. Lips Sealed  I paid $12 to come to the cinema and stare   
   at the floor.

    
 -People who ask "Can I ask you a question?"... Didn't really give me a choice there, did ya sunshine?


 -When something is 'new and improved!'. Which is it? If it's new, then there has never been anything before it. If it's an improvement,
  then there must have been something before it, couldn't be new. 

 -When people say "life is short". What the hell?? Life is the longest damn thing anyone ever does!! What can you do that's longer?


-When you are waiting for the bus and someone asks "Has the bus come yet?". If the bus came would I be standing here?


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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2006, 07:14:09 AM »

.........................................   ..........................very clever!
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2006, 08:23:19 AM »

Here's one that gets to me...

People who say, "needless to say," then they go ahead and say it.  Tongue

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