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1  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr Aug 21, 2013 -- It Is All About How You See on: September 20, 2013, 05:55:25 PM
I'm glad to hear everything went well.  Your lives sound wonderful!
2  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr Aug 21, 2013 -- It Is All About How You See on: September 06, 2013, 06:32:17 PM
Alan,
I'm so sorry you lost your mom.  My mom seems to on her last leg also.  It's been a very tough summer being around the family when every one has so much pain to deal with right now.   I know I need some help with so many issues that continue to surface.  I hope you're doing well with such a void in your life.  Is your family supportive and together during this difficult time?

Your new job sounds right up your alley!  I know you"ll be terrific at it.  I enjoyed helping people when I was the director of music.  I spent a lot of time on the phone.  After the parish changed, I felt like I had no business spending time on the phone.  Many if the musicians still miss that extra time I spent as a pastoral musician. 

I hope you'll be more specific in how you have been helped.  I don't think I'm a namby pamby, and I was accepted by the liberal movement in the Church.  I was Tom Conry's accompanist at a retreat in the mountains.  He and the leaders were so enthusiastic!  That was over 20 years ago.  They talked about the Kingdom on earth.  I felt like it was an extraordinary journey they were on and I so wanted to be a part of it.  Then, life slammed into me and I went to battle.  The last few years have been a much needed rest for me.

I so much appreciate you and John taking the time to write me.  I have felt so alone and lost lately.  I'm not depressed,  because I have a wonderful husband and terrific friends.  I'm just feeling shallow somewhat for thinking of myself first when the family says things that are so absurd to me.  I don't even know what day it is.  I'm just dreading what's ahead of me.  That shows no faith on my part and I know that.

I hope you will bring that enthusiasm and bluntness to this group, Allen.
3  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr Aug 21, 2013 -- It Is All About How You See on: September 05, 2013, 03:53:29 PM
I agree, John.  The Church is what it is, but the politics bother my conscience. 

 I guess I'm pulling back because I'm embarrassed with my own openness.  I've never been on anything like this before and and after I put it out there, I read it and swallow hard with what I read.  I feel self centered which I normally am not.  I need to deal with this through prayer and then return when I'm ready to help others.

I don't expect you or anyone to answer me, I've been gone on and off all summer!  I'm not following other people at all.  I worry more about bringing others down, since I'm going through a lot.  I'll be back when I have more positive things to say.

You are so sweet and helpful!  This has nothing to do with not being answered.
4  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr August 2, 2013 -- Culture's Habitual World Is Meritocracy on: September 04, 2013, 10:49:56 PM
Very interesting, John.  What do you think about that?
5  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr Aug 21, 2013 -- It Is All About How You See on: September 04, 2013, 10:07:55 PM
Minds  and hearts need to be open to listen to the real questions and concerns that we have.  I don't care what the message of the day is supposed to be.  Forget the hierarchy and their thinking we're a bunch of sheep waiting for their brilliance to inspire us and lead us into contemplation over some contrived subject. 

The laity are the ones that Jesus was looking for to spread God's love.  Maybe we need to focus on what kind of people Jesus was drawn to.  The mass should be a lovely celebration of the word of God.  It should not have anything to do with fear of heaven or hell.  The sacraments are celebrations of love, the journey of life, ointment of the sick and dying.  I question what their meaning has become. 

I want to be drawn back to the faith, but I don't get the point right now.  I definitely don't want any them and they stuff, that's why the world is the mess that it is.  So many opinions, yet not many answers.  I'm so sad about the disrespect towards our President.  I don't know why, yet I hear so many short insults with no meaning to me.

We've had work done to our house because I did something really stupid, left the water on.  Mexicans have done the repair and they work with no breaks!  Yet, FB is constantly posting anti immigration posts.  Where is all this hate coming from?

Sorry for my ranting, this has been a tough summer for me.  You have no idea what I've had to endure.  This will most likely be my last post.  I somehow don't think I belong here.  Thanks for listening if you are.
Love,
Linda
6  Main Forums Set / None of the Above / Re: Puppies for sale on: August 29, 2013, 07:38:10 AM
That is so sweet.
7  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr Aug 21, 2013 -- It Is All About How You See on: August 23, 2013, 11:07:59 AM
Isn't that what the celebration of the Mass is supposed to lead the people to understand.  I have been to small group celebrations during retreats where we gather together and then file in like sheep to the celebration area.  It's so beautiful and meaningful to be a part of such a gathering.  Sometimes the mob mentality seeps into the weekly church celebration, especially on Easter!  Police are hired to protect us and the doors are closed and guarded.  It's necessary because people have been killed especially on Easter Sunday. 
 
I wonder if it's possible to create the retreat atmosphere at a weekly church Mass, especially on Easter Sunday.  I also wonder why Priests are moved around so much.  It takes a known leader to put people in that comfort zone of contemplation, but things seem so chaotic in many churches because of constant changes.  Even the music keeps changing for reasons I don't think are valid.  Politics have no business in a church that is a hierarchy not a democracy.  It causes division and destroys the peace that Sunday Mass is supposed to offer us a respite from.  Am I naive to long for unity?  I feel that our goal should be creating a peaceful atmosphere where we contemplate together.  Harmony in the Church must be achieved before individual contemplation will truly be successful.  (Somehow that came to me, I don't know if it's true).
8  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr August 2, 2013 -- Culture's Habitual World Is Meritocracy on: August 23, 2013, 10:28:01 AM
I had my own experience of God in the hospital after a serious operation.  The thing is, I think everyone around me were somehow involved in the experience too!  Even the sky gave proof of my rebirth.  Has anyone else had a shared experience of God?
9  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: ‘Don’t dumb down the faith,’ priest tells Denver convention crowd on: August 16, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
I have to say, I am laughing.  
10  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: There really are very wealthy people calling the shots for society. on: August 02, 2013, 03:25:25 PM
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11  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: ‘Don’t dumb down the faith,’ priest tells Denver convention crowd on: August 01, 2013, 10:28:18 PM
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12  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: There really are very wealthy people calling the shots for society. on: August 01, 2013, 10:14:48 PM
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13  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr July 23, 2013 -- The Practice of the Better on: July 23, 2013, 10:26:41 AM
Do you agree with this Alan?
14  Main Forums Set / Welcome New Members / Re: Welcome zaccers on: June 26, 2013, 07:23:22 PM
Welcome Zaccers,

I'm new myself, but, I already love this group. So real and loving.  Unfortunately, I get my feelings hurt pretty easily, but this group is forgiving, not challenging in a mean way at all and Alan is wonderful!  I haven't been banned yet, right Alan?  I'm looking forward to getting to know you, Zaccers.

Linda Clare
15  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: Pope Francis condemns hypocrisy on: June 24, 2013, 03:49:46 PM
I agree John.  I guess it's time for me to move on and start something with my spiritual life again.
Thanks
16  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: Pope Francis condemns hypocrisy on: June 24, 2013, 03:14:31 PM
Oh phew,  there it is.
17  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: Pope Francis condemns hypocrisy on: June 24, 2013, 03:13:03 PM
Hmmmm. I wonder where my post went.  Don't tell me it's in the wrong spot AGAIN!
18  Main Forums Set / The Outside World / Re: Pope Francis condemns hypocrisy on: June 24, 2013, 03:08:12 PM
I actually got curious and took the test.  I received a 99%.  I did cheat a little which would null and void the test.  At first I got a 97% and they don't show you what you missed.  I went back and reread the test and found my mistake and changed my answer.  They did a proper job of brainwashing me.   I don't think it's really cheating it's plain old curiosity.  The answers still have much meaning to me, I went right back to rote mode.
19  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr June 12, 2013 -- The Power of Now on: June 14, 2013, 09:15:06 PM
I agree.  I'm trying to remember the music setting for this? 
20  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr June 14, 2013 -- The Sin of Exclusion on: June 14, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
I remember reading Joseph Campbell (sp.) describing this in a book " The Hero's Journey".  The hero leaves the village, goes through an awakening or danger of some sort and then goes back to the village with his new found knowledge to help the community.  It was an excellent book. I may not be describing it exactly, but, something like that.
21  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr June 14, 2013 -- The Sin of Exclusion on: June 14, 2013, 08:56:32 PM
I think that also showed what a genius Jesus was as a story teller.  It's copied in so many of the best stories we have.  One recent one is The Circle of Life in "The Lion King".  Or There's no place like home in "The Wizard of Oz".
22  Main Forums Set / None of the Above / Re: WF server down for two days. on: June 09, 2013, 05:14:03 PM
Oh no!!!  Not another one roaming the streets?
23  Main Forums Set / Richard Rohr discussion zone / Re: Rohr June 9, 2013 -- Non-Dual Thinking (“Contemplative Mind”) Is Neces on: June 09, 2013, 05:12:18 PM
I definitely needed to hear this.  Sometimes I fall into dualistic thinking.  Thank you for bringing this to light!
24  Main Forums Set / Welcome New Members / Re: Welcome Forkfoot on: June 09, 2013, 05:06:46 PM
Alan,
I love everything you just wrote!  Forkfoot, I can't help but laugh every time I read your name.  Where did it come from, if I may ask?
25  Main Forums Set / None of the Above / Re: WF server down for two days. on: June 09, 2013, 04:47:28 PM
Now I know I have a guilt complex.  My best friends always tell me that and laugh.   I really thought it was my fault .  I must have written something that shut the site down, or, Alan decided to get rid of me for not following directions.  Or worse yet, no I won't go there.
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